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Vandals give car unwanted paint job
A MOTHER-OF-TWO was shocked to find that the family car had been given an unwelcome paint job over the Easter weekend.
Claire Woodman (30) looked out of the window at her home in Hartford Drive, Tottington, on Sunday morning to discover that her Toyota Rav 4 had been dowsed in gloss paint overnight.
She believes the attack may have been carried out because police visited the Millerbrook estate last week.
The culprits used both white and grey gloss paint but no tins were left at the scene.
Claire, who works as an orthoptist and lives with husband David and children Cameron, aged 3, and Darcey, aged eight months, believes she heard the attack carried out at about 3.30am. She has had to chip away at the paint to get the car doors open and still cannot open the windows.
She said: "I'm still waiting to find out whether the insurance company will pay to repair the damage. It might be a write-off.
"It was obviously premeditated because no one walks around carrying tins of paint at 3.30am.
"There were police around on the estate last week because there has been a big problem with teenagers causing noise.
The police parked outside our house so someone might have thought that it was us who complained."
Claire said she was angry that police had not returned to the estate to investigate the vandalism.
She said: "I'm so angry. We reported it straight away and were told someone would be around after 7am to investigate but at noon they called to say no-one was going to come. They could have asked the neighbours if anyone had seen or heard anything."
A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said: "GMP operates a graded response system which means that incidents where there is an immediate threat to life are given a higher priority than other calls."
"Inquiries are continuing to trace the individuals responsible"
8:00am Thursday 27th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Merlin, The Voice of Reason, Ramsbottom on 12:58pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I feel very sorry for the victims of mindless crime like this.
Greater Manchester Police rarely investigate because all their efforts are focused on the crime-ridden Metropolis of Manchester, on firearms and drug related incidents.
Incidents like this count as "petty" as far as GMP are concerned. And thus the sad pathetic vandals who do this get away with it.
I tell you, it is high time Bury got out of Greater Manchester and returned to Lancashire proper! At least we would have some proper policing by the top-ranked Police Force in the country!
When did anyone in Ramsbottom last see a copper?
I'm afraid Bury and Rammy are on the edge of "Greater Manchester", so we don't get the same resources. What a waste of time the Manchester experiment was. It is time to abandon the Manchester Myth which only serves to aggrandise the power hungry at Manchester Town Hall. You know the ones I mean.
I feel very sorry for the victims of mindless crime like this.
Greater Manchester Police rarely investigate because all their efforts are focused on the crime-ridden Metropolis of Manchester, on firearms and drug related incidents.
Incidents like this count as "petty" as far as GMP are concerned. And thus the sad pathetic vandals who do this get away with it.
I tell you, it is high time Bury got out of Greater Manchester and returned to Lancashire proper! At least we would have some proper policing by the top-ranked Police Force in the country!
When did anyone in Ramsbottom last see a copper?
I'm afraid Bury and Rammy are on the edge of "Greater Manchester", so we don't get the same resources. What a waste of time the Manchester experiment was. It is time to abandon the Manchester Myth which only serves to aggrandise the power hungry at Manchester Town Hall. You know the ones I mean.
Posted by: Merlin you knobhead, I love Manchester on 12:46am Fri 28 Mar 08
Merlin or should we say Les in disguise only you could be so sick as to turn this unfortunate incident into your usual chip on your shoulder regarding Bury being in Greater Manchester, grow up you complete knobhead and accept the facts Bury is in Greater Manchester.
Merlin or should we say Les in disguise only you could be so sick as to turn this unfortunate incident into your usual chip on your shoulder regarding Bury being in Greater Manchester, grow up you complete knobhead and accept the facts Bury is in Greater Manchester.
Posted by: Barry Thomas, Bury, Greater Manchester on 1:31am Fri 28 Mar 08
Merlin you are an absolute idiot, the Police come from Bury station not central Manchester or Collyhurst. Bury will never go back to the dark depressing days of lancashire, as one poster said on this website " Bury's present and future is firmly cemented in Greater Manchester". I would rather be Policed by GMP a force full of switch on city type coppers rather than a bunch of hicks from across the border over in lancashire whos biggest crimes to deal with are sheep abuse.
Merlin you are an absolute idiot, the Police come from Bury station not central Manchester or Collyhurst. Bury will never go back to the dark depressing days of lancashire, as one poster said on this website " Bury's present and future is firmly cemented in Greater Manchester". I would rather be Policed by GMP a force full of switch on city type coppers rather than a bunch of hicks from across the border over in lancashire whos biggest crimes to deal with are sheep abuse.
Posted by: Bowker Vale Barry, Blackley, Manchester on 8:26am Fri 28 Mar 08
I would not pay much attention to Merlin who is dire need of a good physciastrist.
I would not pay much attention to Merlin who is dire need of a good physciastrist.
Posted by: Hayley Bankett, Bell lane, Bury, Greater Manchester on 10:39am Fri 28 Mar 08
What a terrible act to ruin someones car like this, there really are some mindless idiots nowadays. Merlin you sound like a wind up merchant and had better get used to Bury being in Greater Manchester, anyway you are from Ramsbottom so keep youe nose out of Burys business outsider. I have to say you remind me of a poster on here called Les also, I think you have been rumbled internet troll!
What a terrible act to ruin someones car like this, there really are some mindless idiots nowadays. Merlin you sound like a wind up merchant and had better get used to Bury being in Greater Manchester, anyway you are from Ramsbottom so keep youe nose out of Burys business outsider. I have to say you remind me of a poster on here called Les also, I think you have been rumbled internet troll!
Posted by: Anonymous, Miller Brook estate on 2:10pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I hate to say it but this sounds like they were singled out because a police car stopped outside their house.
Perhaps if Bury Police did more to stop the motorbikes/trail bikes using our estate as a rat run and scaring people, children and animals then this incident would not have happened. What use are the so-called Bike police -you ring them to report the bikes but there is never any answer.
The police would also do well to disperse the gangs of kids who all appear under 16 that congregate + get trolleyed around the miller brook sign at the bottom of garside hey rd. A cursory walk through by 2 community support offices at 2pm of a weekday afternoon is not good enough.....
I hate to say it but this sounds like they were singled out because a police car stopped outside their house.
Perhaps if Bury Police did more to stop the motorbikes/trail bikes using our estate as a rat run and scaring people, children and animals then this incident would not have happened. What use are the so-called Bike police -you ring them to report the bikes but there is never any answer.
The police would also do well to disperse the gangs of kids who all appear under 16 that congregate + get trolleyed around the miller brook sign at the bottom of garside hey rd. A cursory walk through by 2 community support offices at 2pm of a weekday afternoon is not good enough.....
Posted by: Chappers, Holcombe on 2:57pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Agreed if the council estate scum from Garside Hey/Holme Ave etc were rounded up and dealt with then there would not be the problem. I have seen the little council scum bags hanging around the Millerbrook sign brainless jobless little council chavs with one brain cell between the lot. The joke is that council estate is having all the roofs re- done at our expense as taxpayers while these council scum drink their tennant super and smoke weed. Greater Manchester Police need to deal with these people and swiftly. Exterminate the lot there are geneerations of jobless, alco, druggy scumbags on the council estate they should bulldoze the lot and build nie new houses for people that actually work and contribute to society
Agreed if the council estate scum from Garside Hey/Holme Ave etc were rounded up and dealt with then there would not be the problem. I have seen the little council scum bags hanging around the Millerbrook sign brainless jobless little council chavs with one brain cell between the lot. The joke is that council estate is having all the roofs re- done at our expense as taxpayers while these council scum drink their tennant super and smoke weed. Greater Manchester Police need to deal with these people and swiftly. Exterminate the lot there are geneerations of jobless, alco, druggy scumbags on the council estate they should bulldoze the lot and build nie new houses for people that actually work and contribute to society
Posted by: Anonymous, Tottington on 4:00pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Im a working, law abiding citizen living on the miller brook estate myself ! However I have to say that some of the problems mentioned are NOT solely caused by children / teenagers of the adjacent council estate coming onto the miller brook estate . They ARE actually caused by the children of the residents of Miller Brook ! Its these irresponsible parents that should also be held accountable by the police !
Im a working, law abiding citizen living on the miller brook estate myself ! However I have to say that some of the problems mentioned are NOT solely caused by children / teenagers of the adjacent council estate coming onto the miller brook estate . They ARE actually caused by the children of the residents of Miller Brook ! Its these irresponsible parents that should also be held accountable by the police !
Posted by: Hamish Macbeth, Whitefield on 4:47pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Merlin - why not go the whole hog and incorporate Bury into Dyfed Powys or the Highlands of Scotland - we could then have an even lower crime rate on paper!
The reality is which ever administrative region we are in the locl issues still remain.
Merlin - why not go the whole hog and incorporate Bury into Dyfed Powys or the Highlands of Scotland - we could then have an even lower crime rate on paper!
The reality is which ever administrative region we are in the locl issues still remain.
Posted by: Merlin, The Voice of Reason, Ramsbottom on 8:52pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Barry Thomas[/bold] wrote:
Merlin you are an absolute idiot, the Police come from Bury station not central Manchester or Collyhurst. Bury will never go back to the dark depressing days of lancashire, as one poster said on this website \" Bury\'s present and future is firmly cemented in Greater Manchester\". I would rather be Policed by GMP a force full of switch on city type coppers rather than a bunch of hicks from across the border over in lancashire whos biggest crimes to deal with are sheep abuse. [/quote] That's why Greater Manchester Police are 3rd from bottom in the performance tables and Lancashire Constabulary are top.
Go home you sad Manc!
Barry Thomas wrote:
Merlin you are an absolute idiot, the Police come from Bury station not central Manchester or Collyhurst. Bury will never go back to the dark depressing days of lancashire, as one poster said on this website \" Bury\'s present and future is firmly cemented in Greater Manchester\". I would rather be Policed by GMP a force full of switch on city type coppers rather than a bunch of hicks from across the border over in lancashire whos biggest crimes to deal with are sheep abuse.
That's why Greater Manchester Police are 3rd from bottom in the performance tables and Lancashire Constabulary are top.
Go home you sad Manc!
Posted by: Merlin, The Voice of Reason, Ramsbottom on 8:53pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Bowker Vale Barry[/bold] wrote:
I would not pay much attention to Merlin who is dire need of a good physciastrist.[/quote] Another Manc interfering in Bury affairs!
Go back to your Manchester slums.
Bowker Vale Barry wrote:
I would not pay much attention to Merlin who is dire need of a good physciastrist.
Another Manc interfering in Bury affairs!
Go back to your Manchester slums.
Posted by: Merlin, The Voice of Reason, Ramsbottom on 8:59pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Merlin you knobhead[/bold] wrote:
Merlin or should we say Les in disguise only you could be so sick as to turn this unfortunate incident into your usual chip on your shoulder regarding Bury being in Greater Manchester, grow up you complete knobhead and accept the facts Bury is in Greater Manchester.[/quote] Greater Manchester only exists as a "ceremonial county".
The administrative county was abolished years ago because it was a failure!
And it most certainly isn't a Historic County!!
You will note: (a) Bury MBC has Lancashire in its' address (b) has a Lancashire Suite at the Town Hall and (c) the Bury MBC emblem of the Six Towns represents the Red Rose of Lancashire.
The East Lancs Railway also runs through the town.
The Lancashire Fuisiliers are based in Bury.
And many many businesses include Lancashire on their letterheading.
Merlin you knobhead wrote:
Merlin or should we say Les in disguise only you could be so sick as to turn this unfortunate incident into your usual chip on your shoulder regarding Bury being in Greater Manchester, grow up you complete knobhead and accept the facts Bury is in Greater Manchester.
Greater Manchester only exists as a "ceremonial county".
The administrative county was abolished years ago because it was a failure!
And it most certainly isn't a Historic County!!
You will note: (a) Bury MBC has Lancashire in its' address (b) has a Lancashire Suite at the Town Hall and (c) the Bury MBC emblem of the Six Towns represents the Red Rose of Lancashire.
The East Lancs Railway also runs through the town.
The Lancashire Fuisiliers are based in Bury.
And many many businesses include Lancashire on their letterheading.
Posted by: Merlin, The Voice of Reason, Ramsbottom on 9:06pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Hayley Bankett[/bold] wrote:
What a terrible act to ruin someones car like this, there really are some mindless idiots nowadays. Merlin you sound like a wind up merchant and had better get used to Bury being in Greater Manchester, anyway you are from Ramsbottom so keep youe nose out of Burys business outsider. I have to say you remind me of a poster on here called Les also, I think you have been rumbled internet troll![/quote] I am not Les. Never heard of him.
I pay my Council Tax to Bury MBC so I am entitled to comment.
And Lancashire is Historic County; Greater Manchester was a cobbled together idea thought up by Ted Heath's Government, the same one that took us into the Common Market, and frankly it has been a disaster.
The Greater Manchester County Council was abolished many years ago, so the Greater Manchester experiment failed and the Manchester myth has been exposed.
Time to get back to our roots.
Hayley Bankett wrote:
What a terrible act to ruin someones car like this, there really are some mindless idiots nowadays. Merlin you sound like a wind up merchant and had better get used to Bury being in Greater Manchester, anyway you are from Ramsbottom so keep youe nose out of Burys business outsider. I have to say you remind me of a poster on here called Les also, I think you have been rumbled internet troll!
I am not Les. Never heard of him.
I pay my Council Tax to Bury MBC so I am entitled to comment.
And Lancashire is Historic County; Greater Manchester was a cobbled together idea thought up by Ted Heath's Government, the same one that took us into the Common Market, and frankly it has been a disaster.
The Greater Manchester County Council was abolished many years ago, so the Greater Manchester experiment failed and the Manchester myth has been exposed.
Time to get back to our roots.
Posted by: Merlin, The Voice of Reason, Ramsbottom on 9:07pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Oh I forgot to add that The Bury Times is part of the "This is Lancashire Network".
Oh I forgot to add that The Bury Times is part of the "This is Lancashire Network".
Posted by: kirst, vic on 9:47pm Fri 28 Mar 08
As usual the topic veers off course into a battle Mancs vs Lancs!!!!! Pretty sad... The topic is vandalisim and the problem is the police did nothing about it!!! Digusting...
As usual the topic veers off course into a battle Mancs vs Lancs!!!!! Pretty sad... The topic is vandalisim and the problem is the police did nothing about it!!! Digusting...
Posted by: EMMA, BURY on 11:15pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]kirst[/bold] wrote:
As usual the topic veers off course into a battle Mancs vs Lancs!!!!! Pretty sad... The topic is vandalisim and the problem is the police did nothing about it!!! Digusting...[/quote] WELL SAID KIRST, COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
kirst wrote:
As usual the topic veers off course into a battle Mancs vs Lancs!!!!! Pretty sad... The topic is vandalisim and the problem is the police did nothing about it!!! Digusting...
WELL SAID KIRST, COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
Posted by: Minny, Bury, Greater Manchester on 11:52pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]EMMA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]kirst[/bold] wrote: As usual the topic veers off course into a battle Mancs vs Lancs!!!!! Pretty sad... The topic is vandalisim and the problem is the police did nothing about it!!! Digusting...[/quote] WELL SAID KIRST, COULDN'T AGREE MORE.[/quote] It's sad when we get outsiders like Merlin from Ramsbottom commenting on issues in Bury.
Merlin GMC was abolsihed but the county remains, check your facts before opening your big gob. By the way I can think of loads of Greater Manchester things as opposed to lancs but what does that prove?
EMMA wrote:
kirst wrote: As usual the topic veers off course into a battle Mancs vs Lancs!!!!! Pretty sad... The topic is vandalisim and the problem is the police did nothing about it!!! Digusting...
WELL SAID KIRST, COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
It's sad when we get outsiders like Merlin from Ramsbottom commenting on issues in Bury.
Merlin GMC was abolsihed but the county remains, check your facts before opening your big gob. By the way I can think of loads of Greater Manchester things as opposed to lancs but what does that prove?
Posted by: Bowker Vale Barry, Blackley, Manchester on Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Merlin, The Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Bowker Vale Barry[/bold] wrote: I would not pay much attention to Merlin who is dire need of a good physciastrist.[/quote] Another Manc interfering in Bury affairs! Go back to your Manchester slums.[/quote] The sort of reply one can expect from Merlin, yet another inbred of Rammy. Keep taking the tablets Merlin.
Merlin, The Voice of Reason wrote:
Bowker Vale Barry wrote: I would not pay much attention to Merlin who is dire need of a good physciastrist.
Another Manc interfering in Bury affairs! Go back to your Manchester slums.
The sort of reply one can expect from Merlin, yet another inbred of Rammy. Keep taking the tablets Merlin.
Posted by: Chappers, Holcombe on 12:07am Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Merlin you knobhead[/bold] wrote:
Merlin or should we say Les in disguise only you could be so sick as to turn this unfortunate incident into your usual chip on your shoulder regarding Bury being in Greater Manchester, grow up you complete knobhead and accept the facts Bury is in Greater Manchester.[/quote] Folks, I wouldn't bother replying to Merlin as I have said on another thread tonight, he is the worst internet troll on these boards and yes many of us have mentioned that we suspect him and Les to be the same poster, so no suprises there that you have been caught with your pants down yet again Merlin AKA Les. LMAO
Merlin you knobhead wrote:
Merlin or should we say Les in disguise only you could be so sick as to turn this unfortunate incident into your usual chip on your shoulder regarding Bury being in Greater Manchester, grow up you complete knobhead and accept the facts Bury is in Greater Manchester.
Folks, I wouldn't bother replying to Merlin as I have said on another thread tonight, he is the worst internet troll on these boards and yes many of us have mentioned that we suspect him and Les to be the same poster, so no suprises there that you have been caught with your pants down yet again Merlin AKA Les. LMAO
Posted by: Barry Thomas, Bury, Greater Manchester on 1:10am Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Merlin, The Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Barry Thomas[/bold] wrote: Merlin you are an absolute idiot, the Police come from Bury station not central Manchester or Collyhurst. Bury will never go back to the dark depressing days of lancashire, as one poster said on this website \" Bury\'s present and future is firmly cemented in Greater Manchester\". I would rather be Policed by GMP a force full of switch on city type coppers rather than a bunch of hicks from across the border over in lancashire whos biggest crimes to deal with are sheep abuse. [/quote] That's why Greater Manchester Police are 3rd from bottom in the performance tables and Lancashire Constabulary are top. Go home you sad Manc![/quote] Deal with the point in question Merlin rather than throwing childish insults! You are masking your strange dislike for Manchester and your inability to come to terms with Bury being in Greater Manchester by making unfounded allegations against Greater Manchester Police without a shred of evidence. No matter which Police force in the country it is whether West Midlands, Merseyside or Greater Manchester they all have a graded system of response. It is terrible what happened to the good ladies car but for you, Merlin to falsely blaim Greater Manchester Police for failing to turn up in a timely fashion solely because of your dislike for all things Manchester and Greater Manchester is frankly, one childish and two shows a total lack of understanding of how a modern Police force work.
By the way I'm born and bred in Bury and calling me a Manc is a compliment to be honest when I'm abroad on business or leisure like most people from Bury and the rest of Greater Manchester when people ask where I'm from I say "Manchester". I'm proud of our city region but if you are not Merlin then it's your loss. Why are you always so negative? Did you have a bad childhood?
Merlin, The Voice of Reason wrote:
Barry Thomas wrote: Merlin you are an absolute idiot, the Police come from Bury station not central Manchester or Collyhurst. Bury will never go back to the dark depressing days of lancashire, as one poster said on this website \" Bury\'s present and future is firmly cemented in Greater Manchester\". I would rather be Policed by GMP a force full of switch on city type coppers rather than a bunch of hicks from across the border over in lancashire whos biggest crimes to deal with are sheep abuse.
That's why Greater Manchester Police are 3rd from bottom in the performance tables and Lancashire Constabulary are top. Go home you sad Manc!
Deal with the point in question Merlin rather than throwing childish insults! You are masking your strange dislike for Manchester and your inability to come to terms with Bury being in Greater Manchester by making unfounded allegations against Greater Manchester Police without a shred of evidence. No matter which Police force in the country it is whether West Midlands, Merseyside or Greater Manchester they all have a graded system of response. It is terrible what happened to the good ladies car but for you, Merlin to falsely blaim Greater Manchester Police for failing to turn up in a timely fashion solely because of your dislike for all things Manchester and Greater Manchester is frankly, one childish and two shows a total lack of understanding of how a modern Police force work.
By the way I'm born and bred in Bury and calling me a Manc is a compliment to be honest when I'm abroad on business or leisure like most people from Bury and the rest of Greater Manchester when people ask where I'm from I say "Manchester". I'm proud of our city region but if you are not Merlin then it's your loss. Why are you always so negative? Did you have a bad childhood?
Posted by: Merlin, The Voice of Reason, Ramsbottom on 10:46am Sat 29 Mar 08
Why say you are from Manchester, when in fact you are from a separate town, i.e. Bury?
I lived in Hale and Altrincham for many years. I can assure you that people there say they live in Cheshire, not "Greater Manchester".
I have nothing per se against Manchester. I have worked in the city for 20 years and I think it has progressed beyond belief in that period.
What I object to is the gradual loss of identity by assuming Bury and any other surrounding towns, like Bolton, are now suddently suburbs of Manchester.
They have their own proud histories and identities which should be preserved, and going forwards can work in partnership with Manchester, without giving up the ghost.
Why say you are from Manchester, when in fact you are from a separate town, i.e. Bury?
I lived in Hale and Altrincham for many years. I can assure you that people there say they live in Cheshire, not "Greater Manchester".
I have nothing per se against Manchester. I have worked in the city for 20 years and I think it has progressed beyond belief in that period.
What I object to is the gradual loss of identity by assuming Bury and any other surrounding towns, like Bolton, are now suddently suburbs of Manchester.
They have their own proud histories and identities which should be preserved, and going forwards can work in partnership with Manchester, without giving up the ghost.
Posted by: David, bury on 3:57pm Sat 29 Mar 08
These comments are boring and absolutely IRRELEVANT .. WHAT ON EARTH has this got to do with the poor family who had their car trashed ?
These comments are boring and absolutely IRRELEVANT .. WHAT ON EARTH has this got to do with the poor family who had their car trashed ?
Posted by: graham, Totty on 5:17pm Sat 29 Mar 08
David these comments have little to do with the crime which is disgaceful, I beleive it could possibly be some of the young little chavs themselves who live on the millerbrook estate. I have seen a particular little idiot who lives on millerbook who is about 10 to 12 years old with reddish hair and lives at the top end of the millerbrook estate estate near the apartments. I suspect he is one of the ring leaders of this crime but things like this are hard to prove. Merlin keeps making inflamatory comments as he trys to steer things to his own agenda which is one of self loathing and love of Greater Manchester. Merlin is a total fruit cake.
Come lets get back to the topic in hand.
David these comments have little to do with the crime which is disgaceful, I beleive it could possibly be some of the young little chavs themselves who live on the millerbrook estate. I have seen a particular little idiot who lives on millerbook who is about 10 to 12 years old with reddish hair and lives at the top end of the millerbrook estate estate near the apartments. I suspect he is one of the ring leaders of this crime but things like this are hard to prove. Merlin keeps making inflamatory comments as he trys to steer things to his own agenda which is one of self loathing and love of Greater Manchester. Merlin is a total fruit cake.
Come lets get back to the topic in hand.
Posted by: Barry Thomas, Bury, Greater Manchester on 5:27pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Merlin, The Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote:
Why say you are from Manchester, when in fact you are from a separate town, i.e. Bury? I lived in Hale and Altrincham for many years. I can assure you that people there say they live in Cheshire, not "Greater Manchester". I have nothing per se against Manchester. I have worked in the city for 20 years and I think it has progressed beyond belief in that period. What I object to is the gradual loss of identity by assuming Bury and any other surrounding towns, like Bolton, are now suddently suburbs of Manchester. They have their own proud histories and identities which should be preserved, and going forwards can work in partnership with Manchester, without giving up the ghost.[/quote] In reply to your question Merlin the reason I like most people when abroad when asked where they are from say Manchester whether they are from Bury, Prestwich or Stockport etc is for one we all live in suburbs of Manchester an two I doubt many people in the states or UAE have even heard of Bury.
It is totally untrue when you say Bury is a seperate town, it shares a large number of it's services and interests with other boroughs within Greater Manchester especially the city of Manchester itself.So no you are wrong when you say Bury is a seperate town, it is mostly reliant on Manchester from employment to making most business and major council decisions.
Also out of interest both my brothers live live in Trafford, one in Hale Barns and one in Sale and most people refer to the area as South Manchester or sometimes Greater Manchester, I think you are getting a bit mixed up there Merlin an thinking of Wilmslow and Alderley.
Merlin, The Voice of Reason wrote:
Why say you are from Manchester, when in fact you are from a separate town, i.e. Bury? I lived in Hale and Altrincham for many years. I can assure you that people there say they live in Cheshire, not "Greater Manchester". I have nothing per se against Manchester. I have worked in the city for 20 years and I think it has progressed beyond belief in that period. What I object to is the gradual loss of identity by assuming Bury and any other surrounding towns, like Bolton, are now suddently suburbs of Manchester. They have their own proud histories and identities which should be preserved, and going forwards can work in partnership with Manchester, without giving up the ghost.
In reply to your question Merlin the reason I like most people when abroad when asked where they are from say Manchester whether they are from Bury, Prestwich or Stockport etc is for one we all live in suburbs of Manchester an two I doubt many people in the states or UAE have even heard of Bury.
It is totally untrue when you say Bury is a seperate town, it shares a large number of it's services and interests with other boroughs within Greater Manchester especially the city of Manchester itself.So no you are wrong when you say Bury is a seperate town, it is mostly reliant on Manchester from employment to making most business and major council decisions.
Also out of interest both my brothers live live in Trafford, one in Hale Barns and one in Sale and most people refer to the area as South Manchester or sometimes Greater Manchester, I think you are getting a bit mixed up there Merlin an thinking of Wilmslow and Alderley.
Posted by: dave, miller brook on 10:58am Sun 30 Mar 08
This is Dave , husband of Claire ( owners of the car that was vandalised ) .. Graham thanks for your comments .. this sounds familiar as a boy fitting this description WAS in fact bundled into a police car outside our house / car EXACTLY 1 week before the car got the "paint job" . Coincidence ?? I also know EXACTLY where this boy lives . Im going to refer this back to the police again .. Will they follow this up ? Maybe ?? Or they are too busy catching folk doing 35 in 30mph zones to follow it through ??
And to the mindless idiot / s responsible for the damage Id like to explain that not ONLY have you ruined the car AND the surrounding road / pavement but also as we couldnt use the car this has impacted on ours and our childrens easter holidays and is continuing to disrupt our everyday working lives ...
This is Dave , husband of Claire ( owners of the car that was vandalised ) .. Graham thanks for your comments .. this sounds familiar as a boy fitting this description WAS in fact bundled into a police car outside our house / car EXACTLY 1 week before the car got the "paint job" . Coincidence ?? I also know EXACTLY where this boy lives . Im going to refer this back to the police again .. Will they follow this up ? Maybe ?? Or they are too busy catching folk doing 35 in 30mph zones to follow it through ??
And to the mindless idiot / s responsible for the damage Id like to explain that not ONLY have you ruined the car AND the surrounding road / pavement but also as we couldnt use the car this has impacted on ours and our childrens easter holidays and is continuing to disrupt our everyday working lives ...
Posted by: Pat, Blackpool on 12:01pm Sun 30 Mar 08
I live in Blackpool and I am the mother of Claire, whose car had the paint job. Thanks to all the people who have shown interest in this story. Crime in this country, however petty, is mindless and causes disruption to normal life all down the line. My Easter was also spoilt by this event. I cant comment on other European countries but would be interested to hear other peoples comments on how our crime rates compare to Europe. I am sad that this story has branched out into local town comparisons. Surely each town in the UK has the same ongoing problem. My greatest fear is that my grandson has witnessed mindless vandalism at the age of 3 years and I fear that he will see it as acceptable behaviour now and in years down the line.
I live in Blackpool and I am the mother of Claire, whose car had the paint job. Thanks to all the people who have shown interest in this story. Crime in this country, however petty, is mindless and causes disruption to normal life all down the line. My Easter was also spoilt by this event. I cant comment on other European countries but would be interested to hear other peoples comments on how our crime rates compare to Europe. I am sad that this story has branched out into local town comparisons. Surely each town in the UK has the same ongoing problem. My greatest fear is that my grandson has witnessed mindless vandalism at the age of 3 years and I fear that he will see it as acceptable behaviour now and in years down the line.
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