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New battle to defeat town’s yob behaviour

11:57am Tuesday 29th January 2008

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POLICE officers predict further success in the fight against anti-social behaviour in Ramsbottom with a new operation codenamed Gallipoli.

Four extra officers have been drafted in from other parts of Bury to patrol Ramsbottom on Friday nights over the next month and keep tabs on groups of young people drinking in the streets.

For the first time in Ramsbottom, officers plan to use new powers that allow them to ban anyone over 16 years of age from a specified area for up to 48 hours without the use of a dispersal order.

Automatic dispersal powers were granted under section 27 of the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006.

The new operation, which will run every Friday from 5pm, will focus primarily on the town centre, the Nuttall Park area, Bolton Road and Peel Brow.

Inspector Bryn Williams said: "The intention is to keep up the momentum with regards to tackling anti-social behaviour in Ramsbottom.

"As the new wave of 15 and 16-year-olds start coming into Ramsbottom drinking on a Friday night we want to get to know who they are so we can take preventative action and discuss any issues with them and their parents before they develop into long-term problems.

"We have the powers to direct anyone aged 16 or over to leave a particular area for up to 48 hours if we have reason to believe they have been involved in alcohol-related crime."

He added: "Anyone who knows their First World War history might think the operation has been given a rather unfortunate name but we believe it will be very successful in further reducing anti-social behaviour in Ramsbottom."

The Battle of Gallipoli in the First World War saw the Allies suffer huge casualties trying to invade the Ottoman Empire.


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Andy, Bury says...
12:59pm Tue 29 Jan 08

This is a very good start and will hopefully result in these unruly youths moving on to another area within the borough. I must say though; if they are going to do this on a Friday night, won't this cause more problems on a Saturday?

Jon Blanc, Dublin says...
1:35pm Tue 29 Jan 08

England is a society where our children have adults living in fear. Fear to answer the door, fear to walk the streets. I have lived away from Bury since 1980. Being a Bury FC fan I get back as often as I can and what I see dismays me. I know things were far from perfect when I was a lad. Drugs were on the increase, football violence was par for the course and fights in nightclubs was common. But now the sight of hooded youths, some very young, even in broad daylight,instills a sense of foreboding. A freind of mine (an invalid) was being plagued by a youth who was constantly calling at his door on various pretext. The feeling was he was 'sounding him out' in order to break in at an opportune moment. My freind was living in a state of anxiety. Even walking home from the local at night filled him with dread of being attacked by school age troublemakers. He passed on his worries to a good freind and pointed out the youth. A few days later his freind approached the youth and asked him why he kept knocking on this mans door. He said it wasn't him, it was his brother. So the freind gave him a backhander, and told him to give that to his brother. End of problem.
I know vigilantism is frowned upon and would lead to anarchy. But lets be honest now, the powers of law and order are NOT working. Moving dregs on from a certain location will only force them to relocate. Not the end of the problem, but someone elses problem. I never thought I would say this, but we need draconian measures. It won't happen of course. At least not in the short term. But eventually, maybe after a high profile incident, somewhere down the line, a Government will be forced by public opinion to act. Please Lord, for the sake of my country, make it sooner rather than later. Reclaim the streets!

Ian_B, Bury says...
9:36am Wed 30 Jan 08

Andy wrote:
This is a very good start and will hopefully result in these unruly youths moving on to another area within the borough. I must say though; if they are going to do this on a Friday night, won\'t this cause more problems on a Saturday?
Although I agree with you Andy that this is a good start, but causing the Yobs to move on to another part of the borough is not the answer to the problem, all that does is pass the problem on to some other person who then has to live with it and eventually they WILL be back once the police presence has gone.


Tom Harrop, Ramsbottom. says...
1:09pm Wed 30 Jan 08

Operation Gallipoli? I think this is a great idea. Well done to who ever thought of it. I'm now hoping to see the police in Ramsbottom with fixed bayonets. Its what's been needed for a long time. Yobs! They don't like it up 'em. A bit of cold steel wouldn't go amiss on a few feckless parents either.

driver, Totty says...
5:15pm Wed 30 Jan 08

Will the police also talk to the taxi drivers who park on outside the pubs in the town and also tho the drinkers and smokers who lark about on the road in front of drivers?
(fantastic example some of you give to young ones). Perhaps this is why the yobs can be out till all hours, the parents are at the pub !

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