LiveMATCHDAY LIVE: Bury 1 MK Dons 4

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4:56pm

F/T: Bury 1 MK Dons 4

4:55pm

90 - GOAL: Bury 1 MK DONS 4 - Chadwick compounds the Bury misery with a 15-yard curler

4:45pm

80 – GOAL: BURY 1 MK Dons 3 – Lenell John-Lewis broke the Dons off-side trap to charge down David Worrall’s through ball – getting it before the Milton Keynes keeper.

4:35pm

72 – Marshall has Bury’s first shot on target of the second half, but his curling effort is easy for Martin to gather. Healy then misses with a shot on the turn.

4:32pm

70 – SUB – Bowditch off for Daniel Powell

4:30pm

66 – GOAL – Bury 0 MK DONS 3 – Bowditch completes his hat-trick, latching on to a quick free-kick from Stephen Gleeson that caught the Bury players napping before curling past the on-rushing Carson into the bottom corner.

65 – SUB – Tom Hopper off for Lenell John-Lewis

4:24pm

62 – Carson tips Lowe’s close-range effort on to the post and the ball is cleared.

4:23pm

Bury revert to straight 4-4-2 with Worrall on the right and Marshall on the left.

4:21pm

53 – GOAL: Bury 0 MK DONS 2 – Dean Bowditch buries the second rebound after Carson makes a cracking save from Ryan Lowe before Luke Chadwick’s follow-up bounces into his path in the centre of the six yard box.

57 – Chadwick booked for foul on Schumacher
58 – Sweeney off for David Worrall

4:07pm

Second half under way at Gigg Lane

3:57pm

It looks as if the wheels have well and truly fallen off for Bury in the first half, highlighting the importance of getting a new manager in place sooner rather than later.

A switch to a 5-3-2 formation was quickly abandoned after MK Dons took the lead on the half hour, Dean Bowditch hooking home Luke Chadwick's pull-back.

The fact Bowditch was able to lose his marker with apparent ease made a mockery of the Shakers' make-shift formation.

Hopefully, Shirtliff can work wonders in the dressing room at half-time to inspire his first win in nine games in temporary charge before his full-time replacement is drafted in.

The Bury board have promised a manager will be in place by next Saturday's trip to Stevenage - on this evidence, the change can't come soon enough. 

3:51pm

H/T: Bury 0 MK Dons 1

3:48pm

Hopper seems to have drifted off to the left, with Marshall on the right to play a 4-3-3 formation. Although Marshall is dropping a little deeper when the Dons have the ball.


45 – MK Dons SUB: Jon Otsemobor off for Mathias Kouo-Doumbe

3:42pm

38 – SUB: Adam Lockwood off for Marcus Marshall

Shirtliff has ditched the 5-3-2 system already.

40 - Charlie MacDonald off for Ryan Lowe

3:40pm

35 – A combination of Trevor Carson and then Mark Hughes on the line deny Karl Robinson’s men a golden chance to go 2-0 up. Bowditch’s header was well-stopped at the far post by Carson before MacDonald’s follow-up was headed on to the bar by Hughes.

3:40pm

35 – A combination of Trevor Carson and then Mark Hughes on the line deny Karl Robinson’s men a golden chance to go 2-0 up. Bowditch’s header was well-stopped at the far post by Carson before MacDonald’s follow-up was headed on to the bar by Hughes.

3:36pm

33 – GOAL: Bury 0 MK Dons 1 - Dean Bowditch peels off his marker in the box to hook home Luke Chadwick’s pull back from the left.

3:31pm

28 – Great 30-yard shot from Tom Hopper tipped over by Martin. Sweeney corner then goes straight across the six-yard box.

3:27pm

MANAGER UPDATE: Phil Brown has come out and said he is interested in the Bury manager's job so that is one out of the shortlist of five confirmed.

Henning Berg also seems to be popular with the bookies as well.

3:25pm

It's quite hard to work out whether Shirtliff has pulled off a tactical masterstoke here or made a blunder.

MK Dons have lined up in a 4-2-3-1 formation, with Luke Chadwick playing in the hole behind lone front man Charlie MacDonald.

Bury are countering that with Jones and Skarz pushing tight on the Dons widemen, Mark Hughes marking MacDonald and Sodje and Lockwood pushing forward to pick up Chadwick when he drops off into space.

MK Dons have had a few chances, but the back three/five have blocked off any clear sights at goal.

The Shakers can't seem to hold on to the ball though, which has been one of the few plus-points of their play so far this season. 

3:18pm

16 – Hopper wrestles his way past his marker to get behind the Dons defence but does not have the legs to work himself a shooting opportunity.

3:09pm

5 – Mark Hughes heads over from underneath the posts after getting his head on an inswinging free kick from Peter Sweeney. The Bury centre-back got to the ball before Dons keeper David Martin but could not turn his head round to angle his effort on target.

3:01pm

K/O: We're under way at Gigg Lane

2:49pm

Full line-ups

BURY: Carson; A Jones, Lockwood, Sodje, Hughes, Skarz; Carrington, Schumacher, Sweeney; Healy, Hopper.
Subs: Byrne, Worrall, Marshall, John-Lewis, Elford-Alliyu, Cullen, Belford.


MK DONS: Martin; Otsemobor, Lewington, Williams, Gleeson, Potter, Bowditch, MacDonald, O’Shea, Kay, Chadwick.
Subs: Kouo-Doumbe, Smith, Chicksen, Lowe, McLoughlin, Powell.


Referee: Mark Haywood

2:48pm

Team news

Peter Shirtliff's hopes of landing the Bury manager's job may now be dead in the water but that hasn't stopped him tinkering with the squad as he searches for his first win as caretaker boss.

The stand-in manager has switched to a 5-3-2 formation, with Mark Hughes coming back in to join Adam Lockwood and Efe Sodje at centre back.

Full-backs Andrai Jones and Joe Skarz will provide the width while Mark Carrington returns to bolster central midfield, allowing Steven Schumacher and Peter Sweeney to support the front two.

After four games out with a thigh strain, David Healy returns to make his home debut for Bury alongside Leicester loan player Tom Hopper up front.

Mark Cullen and Marcus Marshall drop to the bench, while Craig Jones is out injured.

David Worrall has been named as a substitute after two games out with an ankle knock.  

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5:20pm Sat 22 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

Another bad day at the office for the sorry shakers.The last Buckinghamshire side to visit Gigg lane back in April also won by the same score line and that day it was Stuart Beavon who helped himself to a nice easy hat-trick.If you cannot defend in your own 6 yard box like Bury did today then you really have a problem.Remember Mk Dons had only scored once away from home before today which only goes to show how poor Bury fc played today.The only optimistic chink of light at the end of a very bleak day is that Alan Knill was appointed after a similar hiding against Mk Dons in 2008.Already we are 3 points adrift but let's just hope the board make the right appointment,Nice to see that Andy Bishop was on the score sheet today for Wrexham.Thanks for nothing Shirtliff.A dithering board,bad close season signings and tough opening fixtures are the result of where we find ourselves now.Let's just get behind the new manager and pray for a miracle.
Another bad day at the office for the sorry shakers.The last Buckinghamshire side to visit Gigg lane back in April also won by the same score line and that day it was Stuart Beavon who helped himself to a nice easy hat-trick.If you cannot defend in your own 6 yard box like Bury did today then you really have a problem.Remember Mk Dons had only scored once away from home before today which only goes to show how poor Bury fc played today.The only optimistic chink of light at the end of a very bleak day is that Alan Knill was appointed after a similar hiding against Mk Dons in 2008.Already we are 3 points adrift but let's just hope the board make the right appointment,Nice to see that Andy Bishop was on the score sheet today for Wrexham.Thanks for nothing Shirtliff.A dithering board,bad close season signings and tough opening fixtures are the result of where we find ourselves now.Let's just get behind the new manager and pray for a miracle. Eileenshakers
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1:09pm Mon 24 Sep 12

Andy-bucketeer says...

So Tan Man as come out and said he would like the Bury job.

If he was that interested in the position why was he commentating for GMR on the Horwich game and not showing an interest in the side he claims he wants to manage.

He must want a regular job to be able to top up his tan.
So Tan Man as come out and said he would like the Bury job. If he was that interested in the position why was he commentating for GMR on the Horwich game and not showing an interest in the side he claims he wants to manage. He must want a regular job to be able to top up his tan. Andy-bucketeer
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1:39pm Mon 24 Sep 12

shakencity says...

Maybe because he's an ex Horwich player and assistant manager. He doesn't have to come down and watch us, just to prove he wants to manage us.

I'd have him at Gigg!
Maybe because he's an ex Horwich player and assistant manager. He doesn't have to come down and watch us, just to prove he wants to manage us. I'd have him at Gigg! shakencity
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2:48pm Mon 24 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

good choice if it turns out hes our man,agree entirely with shaken and he is someone with an axe to grind id say.
good choice if it turns out hes our man,agree entirely with shaken and he is someone with an axe to grind id say. russdeshaker
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5:56pm Mon 24 Sep 12

nomoresurfin says...

russdeshaker and shakencity, are you two living in a parallel universe where that perma tanned clown Phil Brown is seen as a good manager.The man is a media junkie, he'd spend more time on his broadcasting commitments than he would at Gigg Lane.He's never had to work at a club with such financial restraints as ours,yet he's always been keen to spend money even when his clubs are in debt.If Brown gets the job, and I think he's going to be offered it, can you see him spending virtually every mid week afternoon and evening scouting for potential signings and checking out future opponents as Alan Knill did? No chance, we'll be signing players off the evidence of highight discs sent by dodgy agents.Leaving Shirtliff in charge of the team for two months has been disastrous, appointing a not very bright dilettante like Brown would be ten times worse.Yes there'd be lots of media coverage, but we'd get relegated anyway and be in administration in no time at all.Sammy Lee's only previous spell as a manager was brief and disastrous and if he's made the short list I'm not sure why,he wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as Bungalow Brown but hewouldn't be my choice.Brian Laws is the type of manager we need,he's had lots of previous experience of running a club with a limited budget and he worked miracles at Scunthorpe over a prolonged period.
russdeshaker and shakencity, are you two living in a parallel universe where that perma tanned clown Phil Brown is seen as a good manager.The man is a media junkie, he'd spend more time on his broadcasting commitments than he would at Gigg Lane.He's never had to work at a club with such financial restraints as ours,yet he's always been keen to spend money even when his clubs are in debt.If Brown gets the job, and I think he's going to be offered it, can you see him spending virtually every mid week afternoon and evening scouting for potential signings and checking out future opponents as Alan Knill did? No chance, we'll be signing players off the evidence of highight discs sent by dodgy agents.Leaving Shirtliff in charge of the team for two months has been disastrous, appointing a not very bright dilettante like Brown would be ten times worse.Yes there'd be lots of media coverage, but we'd get relegated anyway and be in administration in no time at all.Sammy Lee's only previous spell as a manager was brief and disastrous and if he's made the short list I'm not sure why,he wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as Bungalow Brown but hewouldn't be my choice.Brian Laws is the type of manager we need,he's had lots of previous experience of running a club with a limited budget and he worked miracles at Scunthorpe over a prolonged period. nomoresurfin
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8:19am Tue 25 Sep 12

shakencity says...

Everyone to their own nomore, everyone to their own.
I'm pretty sure ANY new manager will be told what budget he has (if any) and susequently how much he can spend, he WILL NOT be allowed to spend money the club hasn't got.
You have no idea what Phil Brown will be doing midweek, he may well do more scouting than Knill did for all you know. As long as results change and we start winning, then he can do what he wants as far as i'm concerned.
I get what you're saying about Laws and i totally agree, i wouldn't be naffed at all if he got the job.
Whoever comes in has one hell of a job on their hands to keep us in this league, if they do, i really think this will be just as big an achievement as when Knilly saved us.
Everyone to their own nomore, everyone to their own. I'm pretty sure ANY new manager will be told what budget he has (if any) and susequently how much he can spend, he WILL NOT be allowed to spend money the club hasn't got. You have no idea what Phil Brown will be doing midweek, he may well do more scouting than Knill did for all you know. As long as results change and we start winning, then he can do what he wants as far as i'm concerned. I get what you're saying about Laws and i totally agree, i wouldn't be naffed at all if he got the job. Whoever comes in has one hell of a job on their hands to keep us in this league, if they do, i really think this will be just as big an achievement as when Knilly saved us. shakencity
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8:53am Tue 25 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

NOMORE,he wont be able to spend a pennyof the clubs finances without prior permision from fenton and co so rest assured we wont be going back into admin regardless of who gets the job,how did u find out that he has never done what knilly did ie opposition and scouting at his other clubs,as long as its not another warnotttttt,wheelbar
row,preece or casper i dont care who gets the job as long as he can save our season.a while ago i can remember millwall being rockbottom at chrismas and still got promotion come may, so i dont think its as doom and gloom as some people think,regardless of our present position(and i still blame maddog for this) we still have the basis of a very good side with the exception of maybe three players who i shouldnt need to name,whoever comes in lets hope hes got a good contact list and some help from the board to bring them in and bingooooo IN BURY FC I BELIEVE, now lets pray, our father that art in bury hallowed be thy name......
NOMORE,he wont be able to spend a pennyof the clubs finances without prior permision from fenton and co so rest assured we wont be going back into admin regardless of who gets the job,how did u find out that he has never done what knilly did ie opposition and scouting at his other clubs,as long as its not another warnotttttt,wheelbar row,preece or casper i dont care who gets the job as long as he can save our season.a while ago i can remember millwall being rockbottom at chrismas and still got promotion come may, so i dont think its as doom and gloom as some people think,regardless of our present position(and i still blame maddog for this) we still have the basis of a very good side with the exception of maybe three players who i shouldnt need to name,whoever comes in lets hope hes got a good contact list and some help from the board to bring them in and bingooooo IN BURY FC I BELIEVE, now lets pray, our father that art in bury hallowed be thy name...... russdeshaker
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11:36am Wed 26 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

A new board of directors is required before any positive change can occur at Gigg Lane.
A new board of directors is required before any positive change can occur at Gigg Lane. R.Sole
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12:02pm Wed 26 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

r.sole,dont agree with your comment,how many league clubs are run by fans of that club as ours is,as i recall the odd one out in this has gone and that was the catman who did a lot of work on our behalf and we benefited from what blowing bubbles did.are u so perfect that u can honestly say u have never made mistakes,yes we should have had a manager lined up to fall back on if the cheap option dosent work which the board are responsible for and they havent but thats all,everything fenton and co do is in the best interests of bfc believe me,they were like me and u not long ago paying good money to stand,yes stand because thats how long their time as i bury fan goes back to,they have watched the good and the bad just like me and u,so instead of coming out with neg comments like urs try bein a little bit more undrstanding ie...finances and back the bury fan that run our club.unless u have some money to invest in the club because the board are always looking for new investment.rant over,it may be n worthington i have heard yesterday as new manager and the club may make an anounsement this afternoon,fingers crossed for father ted.
r.sole,dont agree with your comment,how many league clubs are run by fans of that club as ours is,as i recall the odd one out in this has gone and that was the catman who did a lot of work on our behalf and we benefited from what blowing bubbles did.are u so perfect that u can honestly say u have never made mistakes,yes we should have had a manager lined up to fall back on if the cheap option dosent work which the board are responsible for and they havent but thats all,everything fenton and co do is in the best interests of bfc believe me,they were like me and u not long ago paying good money to stand,yes stand because thats how long their time as i bury fan goes back to,they have watched the good and the bad just like me and u,so instead of coming out with neg comments like urs try bein a little bit more undrstanding ie...finances and back the bury fan that run our club.unless u have some money to invest in the club because the board are always looking for new investment.rant over,it may be n worthington i have heard yesterday as new manager and the club may make an anounsement this afternoon,fingers crossed for father ted. russdeshaker
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12:28pm Wed 26 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

Well to be perfectly frank, I don't agree with your comments either Russdeshaker and I'll explain why: Who makes decisions on how the club is run, which players are bought, which players are sold and who selects the coaching staff ? The board of directors. Therefore who is completely responsible for the current mess ? The board. In any other business, the people responsible would be first asked to resign by the chairman and failing that, they would be fired. If other fans such as yourself create lame excuses and try to lay the blame elsewhere, then Bury FC will be back in League 2 next season. Is it too much to ask for a board that is ahead of the game instead of behind it, to have a plan B and plan C up their sleeves if required, to have innovative ideas and a positive, enthusiastic and energetic mentality ? Everybody makes mistakes .... but people who are creaming-off a nice dividend every year while running a non-functioning business, should be made to pay for their gross incompetence. Or do you prefer to fiddle while Rome burns ?
Well to be perfectly frank, I don't agree with your comments either Russdeshaker and I'll explain why: Who makes decisions on how the club is run, which players are bought, which players are sold and who selects the coaching staff ? The board of directors. Therefore who is completely responsible for the current mess ? The board. In any other business, the people responsible would be first asked to resign by the chairman and failing that, they would be fired. If other fans such as yourself create lame excuses and try to lay the blame elsewhere, then Bury FC will be back in League 2 next season. Is it too much to ask for a board that is ahead of the game instead of behind it, to have a plan B and plan C up their sleeves if required, to have innovative ideas and a positive, enthusiastic and energetic mentality ? Everybody makes mistakes .... but people who are creaming-off a nice dividend every year while running a non-functioning business, should be made to pay for their gross incompetence. Or do you prefer to fiddle while Rome burns ? R.Sole
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2:04pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

Well it's interesting to read the more recent comments on the management situation and who is really to blame for the mess we find ourselves in.I have to agree with Russdeshaker here.So long as our board get most of the decisions right for most of the time we will be on track.I don't believe that selecting a new board would help our club in the short term.We need stability so i guess appointing a manager who is respected in the game and who has good contacts is ideal.Ok Father Ted lookalike wouldn't be my first choice.He's roughly the same age as Peter Shirtliff.Then again Brian Laws is experienced and has had successful campaigns.However nobody at Glanford Park wanted him back when Scunny were rock bottom of the league last month.We all know this board has dithered or worse looked for a budgeted appointment on the cheap.Sorry Brian Fenton the players just didn't get motivated for Ps.So long as whoever keeps us in this league i'll take the short term pain that results won't be the best as long as we get to where we need to be.The last thing we need is someone with a copper coloured tan who will spend as much time working with the media than he would have done scouting.Our squad isn't big enough for this league.Knill always went for quality but when you go for mediocrity and a lack of quality this is where you end up.
Well it's interesting to read the more recent comments on the management situation and who is really to blame for the mess we find ourselves in.I have to agree with Russdeshaker here.So long as our board get most of the decisions right for most of the time we will be on track.I don't believe that selecting a new board would help our club in the short term.We need stability so i guess appointing a manager who is respected in the game and who has good contacts is ideal.Ok Father Ted lookalike wouldn't be my first choice.He's roughly the same age as Peter Shirtliff.Then again Brian Laws is experienced and has had successful campaigns.However nobody at Glanford Park wanted him back when Scunny were rock bottom of the league last month.We all know this board has dithered or worse looked for a budgeted appointment on the cheap.Sorry Brian Fenton the players just didn't get motivated for Ps.So long as whoever keeps us in this league i'll take the short term pain that results won't be the best as long as we get to where we need to be.The last thing we need is someone with a copper coloured tan who will spend as much time working with the media than he would have done scouting.Our squad isn't big enough for this league.Knill always went for quality but when you go for mediocrity and a lack of quality this is where you end up. Eileenshakers
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2:43pm Wed 26 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

So in essence what you're saying Eileen is: Yes the board have messed up, appointed the wrong coach, sold too many players, are happy to go with mediocrity and had no alternative plans if things went wrong (as they have done) unless you regard being at the bottom of the table as an achievement. Players respond to coaches, coaches respond to their board, Therefore if poor direction is given from the boardroom, it filters down to results on the pitch.
So in essence what you're saying Eileen is: Yes the board have messed up, appointed the wrong coach, sold too many players, are happy to go with mediocrity and had no alternative plans if things went wrong (as they have done) unless you regard being at the bottom of the table as an achievement. Players respond to coaches, coaches respond to their board, Therefore if poor direction is given from the boardroom, it filters down to results on the pitch. R.Sole
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3:39pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

You can assume what you like Soulman.I think the board have just made a brilliant appointment in "KEVIN the diamond geezer BLACKWELL."Hello John got a new motor,now get out of my gaff".
You have to remember what league we are in right now.We average about 2700 which is 4th tier following.I am praying that the local indigenous population vote with their feet and get behind our new boss.I wonder if Shirty fancies working with our new boss given his Blade's connections.At least Blacky was highly thought of at S1 and has got tons of experience as well as good contacts in the game.
You can assume what you like Soulman.I think the board have just made a brilliant appointment in "KEVIN the diamond geezer BLACKWELL."Hello John got a new motor,now get out of my gaff". You have to remember what league we are in right now.We average about 2700 which is 4th tier following.I am praying that the local indigenous population vote with their feet and get behind our new boss.I wonder if Shirty fancies working with our new boss given his Blade's connections.At least Blacky was highly thought of at S1 and has got tons of experience as well as good contacts in the game. Eileenshakers
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4:37pm Wed 26 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

The root of the problem doesn't lie with the coach (whoever he is) .... it lies with the people who make executive decisions, hold the pursestrings and ultimately run the club. That said, I wish the new coach the best of luck and hope that Bury manage to stave off relegation.
The root of the problem doesn't lie with the coach (whoever he is) .... it lies with the people who make executive decisions, hold the pursestrings and ultimately run the club. That said, I wish the new coach the best of luck and hope that Bury manage to stave off relegation. R.Sole
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4:54pm Wed 26 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

So the new coach confirmed as Kevin Blackwell. By far the best candidate on the shortlist. Good luck for the future.
So the new coach confirmed as Kevin Blackwell. By far the best candidate on the shortlist. Good luck for the future. R.Sole
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5:21pm Wed 26 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

soley,i suppose the board getting behind knilly when we were in div 2 and finding the money to support knillys proposed loan signings was bad as well getting us into this div in the first place.if u want to complain about boardrooms and directors go back in time to the seventys an billy allen.this present board is the best we have had in a lot of years.i dont blame nyone for going for a chea option in the present climate.the directors are responible for finances.a manager sees a player he thinks is going ot improve the squad then they sanction that but only because they trust their manager to get things right,loaning players out to other teams again you have to trust the manager so it gets sanctioned.who selects the coaching staff,the manager again gets the board to sanction it,so the person u should be having a go at isnt the board of directors but is the manager at the beginning of our season which is wait for it ....................
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.MADDOG BARKER he is responsible for the new signings who have turned out to be bad,he was the one who decided to loan out harrad,he wants shooting and if was that way inclined it would have been done.shirty is responsble for bishop being loaned out,and didnt he get that right,4 player and club.in fact the board employ a manager who they hope is up to the job to make all the decisions talked about above.a board of directors made up of BURY FANS ,brill.
soley,i suppose the board getting behind knilly when we were in div 2 and finding the money to support knillys proposed loan signings was bad as well getting us into this div in the first place.if u want to complain about boardrooms and directors go back in time to the seventys an billy allen.this present board is the best we have had in a lot of years.i dont blame nyone for going for a chea option in the present climate.the directors are responible for finances.a manager sees a player he thinks is going ot improve the squad then they sanction that but only because they trust their manager to get things right,loaning players out to other teams again you have to trust the manager so it gets sanctioned.who selects the coaching staff,the manager again gets the board to sanction it,so the person u should be having a go at isnt the board of directors but is the manager at the beginning of our season which is wait for it .................... .................... .MADDOG BARKER he is responsible for the new signings who have turned out to be bad,he was the one who decided to loan out harrad,he wants shooting and if was that way inclined it would have been done.shirty is responsble for bishop being loaned out,and didnt he get that right,4 player and club.in fact the board employ a manager who they hope is up to the job to make all the decisions talked about above.a board of directors made up of BURY FANS ,brill. russdeshaker
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5:21pm Wed 26 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

soley,i suppose the board getting behind knilly when we were in div 2 and finding the money to support knillys proposed loan signings was bad as well getting us into this div in the first place.if u want to complain about boardrooms and directors go back in time to the seventys an billy allen.this present board is the best we have had in a lot of years.i dont blame nyone for going for a chea option in the present climate.the directors are responible for finances.a manager sees a player he thinks is going ot improve the squad then they sanction that but only because they trust their manager to get things right,loaning players out to other teams again you have to trust the manager so it gets sanctioned.who selects the coaching staff,the manager again gets the board to sanction it,so the person u should be having a go at isnt the board of directors but is the manager at the beginning of our season which is wait for it ....................
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.MADDOG BARKER he is responsible for the new signings who have turned out to be bad,he was the one who decided to loan out harrad,he wants shooting and if was that way inclined it would have been done.shirty is responsble for bishop being loaned out,and didnt he get that right,4 player and club.in fact the board employ a manager who they hope is up to the job to make all the decisions talked about above.a board of directors made up of BURY FANS ,brill.
soley,i suppose the board getting behind knilly when we were in div 2 and finding the money to support knillys proposed loan signings was bad as well getting us into this div in the first place.if u want to complain about boardrooms and directors go back in time to the seventys an billy allen.this present board is the best we have had in a lot of years.i dont blame nyone for going for a chea option in the present climate.the directors are responible for finances.a manager sees a player he thinks is going ot improve the squad then they sanction that but only because they trust their manager to get things right,loaning players out to other teams again you have to trust the manager so it gets sanctioned.who selects the coaching staff,the manager again gets the board to sanction it,so the person u should be having a go at isnt the board of directors but is the manager at the beginning of our season which is wait for it .................... .................... .MADDOG BARKER he is responsible for the new signings who have turned out to be bad,he was the one who decided to loan out harrad,he wants shooting and if was that way inclined it would have been done.shirty is responsble for bishop being loaned out,and didnt he get that right,4 player and club.in fact the board employ a manager who they hope is up to the job to make all the decisions talked about above.a board of directors made up of BURY FANS ,brill. russdeshaker
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5:22pm Wed 26 Sep 12

nomoresurfin says...

I think we should be reasonably pleased
with the appointment of Kevin Blackwell,he's had a decent, if not spectacular career at Leeds,Luton and Sheffield United with a respectable 40% win percentage.Some of the names mentioned in the local media as contenders such as McIlroy and Flitcroft were frankly laughable and i'm sure were never seriously considered,others such as the apalling Phil Brown were considered more realistic by our board but thankfully we've avoided. We've got an experienced bloke who i'm sure will be more interested in the job in hand than his own media profile.My only reservation is that I hope we didn't lose out on any outstanding applicants by insisting that the new man work with the hapless Shirtliff.
I think we should be reasonably pleased with the appointment of Kevin Blackwell,he's had a decent, if not spectacular career at Leeds,Luton and Sheffield United with a respectable 40% win percentage.Some of the names mentioned in the local media as contenders such as McIlroy and Flitcroft were frankly laughable and i'm sure were never seriously considered,others such as the apalling Phil Brown were considered more realistic by our board but thankfully we've avoided. We've got an experienced bloke who i'm sure will be more interested in the job in hand than his own media profile.My only reservation is that I hope we didn't lose out on any outstanding applicants by insisting that the new man work with the hapless Shirtliff. nomoresurfin
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7:37pm Wed 26 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

I don't blame our board for not rushing in and appointing the wrong person.However i do have an issue with them taking 8 games in to a season to make that choice.You have to remember that there are alot of high calibre managers out of work right now.We have seen in the past how some managers will use our club as a stepping stone.We need someone for the long haul.If for some reason somebody wants to poach our manager then we have to make sure we receive good compensation.Had we sacked the hapless Maddog and his backroom staff then we would have had to pay them compensation instead of receiving monies for their services lost.That's why the directors of our club direct.I just hope that the fans get onside with Blacky.Last season we saw how Barker fell out with the fans when things turned sour.We certainly don't want a reputation of being a club which is unmanageable.I'm quite pleased that this appointment was kept underwrap until the right time.As per usual the bookies got it wrong as did all of the rumour people.
I don't blame our board for not rushing in and appointing the wrong person.However i do have an issue with them taking 8 games in to a season to make that choice.You have to remember that there are alot of high calibre managers out of work right now.We have seen in the past how some managers will use our club as a stepping stone.We need someone for the long haul.If for some reason somebody wants to poach our manager then we have to make sure we receive good compensation.Had we sacked the hapless Maddog and his backroom staff then we would have had to pay them compensation instead of receiving monies for their services lost.That's why the directors of our club direct.I just hope that the fans get onside with Blacky.Last season we saw how Barker fell out with the fans when things turned sour.We certainly don't want a reputation of being a club which is unmanageable.I'm quite pleased that this appointment was kept underwrap until the right time.As per usual the bookies got it wrong as did all of the rumour people. Eileenshakers
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9:16pm Wed 26 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

Rusdeshaker ........ NO ..... I don't want to go back 40 years to the 70's ..... I want to look ahead to the future and for me, the future means a complete overhaul of Bury FC starting from the people in the suits who make decisions. The club needs people with testicles who are prepared to take big decisions, be ambitious and look forward to the future with optimism.
Rusdeshaker ........ NO ..... I don't want to go back 40 years to the 70's ..... I want to look ahead to the future and for me, the future means a complete overhaul of Bury FC starting from the people in the suits who make decisions. The club needs people with testicles who are prepared to take big decisions, be ambitious and look forward to the future with optimism. R.Sole
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7:35am Thu 27 Sep 12

shakencity says...

R.Sole,
"The club needs people with testicles who are prepared to take big decisions, be ambitious and look forward to the future with optimism.”

Sadly that will probably put us back in administration but i don't think our Board lack ambition in the slightest.
I personally think the current Board have done a fantastic job while they've been there. With our limited resources i don't think we have a right to complain.....if we got treble the crowds we actually do get then maybe i'd expect a bit more, but we don't, yet we're still in League 1 and now have an experienced manager on board to hopefully get us out of the mess we're in.......let's look to the future and stop moaning.

On another note regarding signings and loan players. Why do we keep going on about Harrad, Bishop and Co being bad decisions......NO they weren't. Harrad and Bishop were both struggling for form and both asked to leave, hopefully when they return they'll come back and know where the net is.
Fergie, Mancini, Mourinho, etc, ect, don't get all their signings right all the time, why do you expect the manager of Bury to?
R.Sole, "The club needs people with testicles who are prepared to take big decisions, be ambitious and look forward to the future with optimism.” Sadly that will probably put us back in administration but i don't think our Board lack ambition in the slightest. I personally think the current Board have done a fantastic job while they've been there. With our limited resources i don't think we have a right to complain.....if we got treble the crowds we actually do get then maybe i'd expect a bit more, but we don't, yet we're still in League 1 and now have an experienced manager on board to hopefully get us out of the mess we're in.......let's look to the future and stop moaning. On another note regarding signings and loan players. Why do we keep going on about Harrad, Bishop and Co being bad decisions......NO they weren't. Harrad and Bishop were both struggling for form and both asked to leave, hopefully when they return they'll come back and know where the net is. Fergie, Mancini, Mourinho, etc, ect, don't get all their signings right all the time, why do you expect the manager of Bury to? shakencity
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11:35am Thu 27 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

R.sole,all im trying to point out is the diff between then and now.the crowds back then wre a lot bigger than we have now and as shaken has pointed out i echo the exact same thing.a few years ago it looked bleak for us and looked like we would be playing conferance football.look at us now what a change thanks to them bury fans that run our club
R.sole,all im trying to point out is the diff between then and now.the crowds back then wre a lot bigger than we have now and as shaken has pointed out i echo the exact same thing.a few years ago it looked bleak for us and looked like we would be playing conferance football.look at us now what a change thanks to them bury fans that run our club russdeshaker
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1:15pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

Here here to Shaken and Russ's comments.The future is bright "THE FUTURE IS BURY."
Some folk need to grow a pair and get real.
Here here to Shaken and Russ's comments.The future is bright "THE FUTURE IS BURY." Some folk need to grow a pair and get real. Eileenshakers
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2:09pm Thu 27 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

OK .... fair comments. Perhaps I'm just a bit too ambitious and would like to see Bury in The Championship or even higher. The bottom of League 1 isn't my idea of achievement. There's not a whole lot of difference between non-league football and where we are today. Anyway .... let's see how the rest of the season pans out and where we are come May 2013.
OK .... fair comments. Perhaps I'm just a bit too ambitious and would like to see Bury in The Championship or even higher. The bottom of League 1 isn't my idea of achievement. There's not a whole lot of difference between non-league football and where we are today. Anyway .... let's see how the rest of the season pans out and where we are come May 2013. R.Sole
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4:19pm Thu 27 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

r.sole its ok matey, watch us do a millwall from ys ago,bottom at chrismas,promoted in may.IN BURY FC AND A CERTAIN MR BLACKWELL WE BELIEVE
r.sole its ok matey, watch us do a millwall from ys ago,bottom at chrismas,promoted in may.IN BURY FC AND A CERTAIN MR BLACKWELL WE BELIEVE russdeshaker
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4:21pm Thu 27 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

R.SOLE,dont mind eileen shakers,she is nasty to everyone but her barks worse than her bite.
R.SOLE,dont mind eileen shakers,she is nasty to everyone but her barks worse than her bite. russdeshaker
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4:39pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

Really Rudetheshaker?,now what's bitten you today?.I'm only nasty to people i don't rate as human beings along with their brainless comments.Now why hasn't the editor removed that comment of yours? mmmm tut tut."Shooting" isn't the best description in light of previous events is it?.Scroll back boyo.
Really Rudetheshaker?,now what's bitten you today?.I'm only nasty to people i don't rate as human beings along with their brainless comments.Now why hasn't the editor removed that comment of yours? mmmm tut tut."Shooting" isn't the best description in light of previous events is it?.Scroll back boyo. Eileenshakers
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4:49pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

russdeshaker wrote:
soley,i suppose the board getting behind knilly when we were in div 2 and finding the money to support knillys proposed loan signings was bad as well getting us into this div in the first place.if u want to complain about boardrooms and directors go back in time to the seventys an billy allen.this present board is the best we have had in a lot of years.i dont blame nyone for going for a chea option in the present climate.the directors are responible for finances.a manager sees a player he thinks is going ot improve the squad then they sanction that but only because they trust their manager to get things right,loaning players out to other teams again you have to trust the manager so it gets sanctioned.who selects the coaching staff,the manager again gets the board to sanction it,so the person u should be having a go at isnt the board of directors but is the manager at the beginning of our season which is wait for it ....................

....................

.MADDOG BARKER he is responsible for the new signings who have turned out to be bad,he was the one who decided to loan out harrad,he wants shooting and if was that way inclined it would have been done.shirty is responsble for bishop being loaned out,and didnt he get that right,4 player and club.in fact the board employ a manager who they hope is up to the job to make all the decisions talked about above.a board of directors made up of BURY FANS ,brill.
Not very nice thing to say about your hero Richie Barker is it RUSSDESHAKER?
[quote][p][bold]russdeshaker[/bold] wrote: soley,i suppose the board getting behind knilly when we were in div 2 and finding the money to support knillys proposed loan signings was bad as well getting us into this div in the first place.if u want to complain about boardrooms and directors go back in time to the seventys an billy allen.this present board is the best we have had in a lot of years.i dont blame nyone for going for a chea option in the present climate.the directors are responible for finances.a manager sees a player he thinks is going ot improve the squad then they sanction that but only because they trust their manager to get things right,loaning players out to other teams again you have to trust the manager so it gets sanctioned.who selects the coaching staff,the manager again gets the board to sanction it,so the person u should be having a go at isnt the board of directors but is the manager at the beginning of our season which is wait for it .................... .................... .MADDOG BARKER he is responsible for the new signings who have turned out to be bad,he was the one who decided to loan out harrad,he wants shooting and if was that way inclined it would have been done.shirty is responsble for bishop being loaned out,and didnt he get that right,4 player and club.in fact the board employ a manager who they hope is up to the job to make all the decisions talked about above.a board of directors made up of BURY FANS ,brill.[/p][/quote]Not very nice thing to say about your hero Richie Barker is it RUSSDESHAKER? Eileenshakers
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10:11pm Thu 27 Sep 12

onchan says...

Yes, R.Sole, I think the present board is pretty good. Id only started watching Bury back in the Allen days, but knew there was a lot of bad feeling in the club then. Think things have improved at the club. Was sorry that Catlin has gone, as I think quite a lot of the improvement was down to him. Do think we should aim higher, but to be fair we have to live within our means, and I have not put my money into the club. Have the view though that if we had a few good seasons we would get better gates. There are several lancashire clubs now in the championship and think we should aim for this, but not run the risk of going into administration.
Yes, R.Sole, I think the present board is pretty good. Id only started watching Bury back in the Allen days, but knew there was a lot of bad feeling in the club then. Think things have improved at the club. Was sorry that Catlin has gone, as I think quite a lot of the improvement was down to him. Do think we should aim higher, but to be fair we have to live within our means, and I have not put my money into the club. Have the view though that if we had a few good seasons we would get better gates. There are several lancashire clubs now in the championship and think we should aim for this, but not run the risk of going into administration. onchan
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9:08am Fri 28 Sep 12

russdeshaker says...

eileen,if u carry on i will start calling ur best mate shuey again?ochan its nice to know im not the only one to not abbandon the shakers in times of trouble like most of the sixtys and seventys 7000/10000.eileen how is horwich getting on these days?
eileen,if u carry on i will start calling ur best mate shuey again?ochan its nice to know im not the only one to not abbandon the shakers in times of trouble like most of the sixtys and seventys 7000/10000.eileen how is horwich getting on these days? russdeshaker
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9:49am Fri 28 Sep 12

R.Sole says...

On the subject of gates, does anybody out there remember some of the great attendances at Gigg Lane of yesteryear ? The cup game against Jackie Charlton's Middlesborough (20 thousand plus). A cup game V Leeds United when Leeds were the Real Madrid of English football in the mid 70's (25 thousand). An F.A. cup game V Nottingham Forest (when I think Forest were either reigning league champions or European cup holders (20 thousand plus).
On the subject of gates, does anybody out there remember some of the great attendances at Gigg Lane of yesteryear ? The cup game against Jackie Charlton's Middlesborough (20 thousand plus). A cup game V Leeds United when Leeds were the Real Madrid of English football in the mid 70's (25 thousand). An F.A. cup game V Nottingham Forest (when I think Forest were either reigning league champions or European cup holders (20 thousand plus). R.Sole
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3:30pm Fri 28 Sep 12

Eileenshakers says...

Ok Russ let's knock it on the head,apology accepted.Horwich? that sounds like a character in Coronation Street.I agree with Onchan a club has to know the level of expectation but it was nice to hear that you are old enough to remember those glory days when we had a huge following.Most clubs have suffered in recent years from dwindling crowds for one reason or another.I expect it has a geographical reason behind it.People don't remain in their home towns anymore.I haven't lived in Bury since 1969 and i'm not even in my 50's yet.Even when we were playing well under Knill it took a promotion campaign to get the glory hunters on board.
Ok Russ let's knock it on the head,apology accepted.Horwich? that sounds like a character in Coronation Street.I agree with Onchan a club has to know the level of expectation but it was nice to hear that you are old enough to remember those glory days when we had a huge following.Most clubs have suffered in recent years from dwindling crowds for one reason or another.I expect it has a geographical reason behind it.People don't remain in their home towns anymore.I haven't lived in Bury since 1969 and i'm not even in my 50's yet.Even when we were playing well under Knill it took a promotion campaign to get the glory hunters on board. Eileenshakers
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