Anger as 'Christmas is cancelled' in Radcliffe

Coronation Street actress Vicky Binns with then-mayor Sheila Magnall at the lights switch-on in 2009

Coronation Street actress Vicky Binns with then-mayor Sheila Magnall at the lights switch-on in 2009

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FURIOUS Radcliffe traders have accused Bury Council of “stealing Christmas” by refusing to put up its festive lights which the town’s businesses funded themselves.

In 2010, Radcliffe Business Group members clubbed together and combined grant funding with donations to spend £19,000 on new LED decorations.

The blue and white lights, purchased in the Radcliffe Borough FC colours, were displayed around the bandstand at the Piazza and went up to the market.

Bury Council took the decorations down at the end of the festive season and since then they have not been put up in the town – with traders not told where they are stored.

Richard Anthony, chairman of Radcliffe Business Group, said council’s actions were “mean and nasty”.

He said: “Why don’t the council just cancel Christmas for Radcliffe completely?

“They have basically stolen Christmas by not putting up the lights we have funded, and it is such a penny-pinching ‘bah humbug’ attitude.

“It is unfair, nasty and just plain mean. I would love to know who thought ‘let’s take Radcliffe’s Christmas lights away from them this year’.”

Mr Anthony said after challenging Bury Council about why the Christmas lights had not been installed in 2011 and 2012, traders were told it would cost £7,000 to put them up.

Traders say they have a quote for £1,200 to re-install the lights in the town centre, which would be “happy” to fund.

Mr Anthony, owner of Richard Anthony’s jeweller on Deansgate, added: “When the lights were put up they looked lovely and it was a real pull for shoppers leading up to Christmas.

“Bury Council said they could not justify spending £7,000 to put the lights back up, but where they plucked this price from I have no idea.”

A spokesman for Bury Council said: “Funding for Christmas lighting in Bury and Radcliffe town centres was cut last year due to the unprecedented financial challenges the council faces and as part of the approved budget savings.

“The council will be acknowledging the festive season by funding seven lighted Christmas trees.

“Lights were purchased a few years ago for Radcliffe, funded by the council and a grant from Radcliffe Township Forum. Regrettably, we simply can’t sustain the level of funding we have put into this in previous years. The Christmas lights in Radcliffe would cost £5,000 to install and maintain.”

Mr Anthony claimed Radcliffe’s council-allocated Christmas tree was last year “completely dead” when it was put up.

He added: “The thing was dead the whole way though. It was shocking — an absolute joke.”

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12:54pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Chrome1 says...

Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?
Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve? Chrome1
  • Score: -12

1:07pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Hough64 says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?
Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?[/p][/quote]Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then? Hough64
  • Score: 12

1:46pm Thu 24 Oct 13

magiphone says...

Now Bury Times, be a real paper and get behind this story and challenge the council over their actions. Bury has taken the heart out of Radcliffe for over 30 years and it's time that they pulled their finger out and put it back on the map like Prestwich, Whitefield and Bury. Or do we continue ploughing our taxes into white elephants like the Rock retail complex. If you don't post the comment and take on the story for the people of Radcliffe then we will use social media to show your customers what you think of them too.
Now Bury Times, be a real paper and get behind this story and challenge the council over their actions. Bury has taken the heart out of Radcliffe for over 30 years and it's time that they pulled their finger out and put it back on the map like Prestwich, Whitefield and Bury. Or do we continue ploughing our taxes into white elephants like the Rock retail complex. If you don't post the comment and take on the story for the people of Radcliffe then we will use social media to show your customers what you think of them too. magiphone
  • Score: 15

1:49pm Thu 24 Oct 13

oftbewildered2 says...

to whom do the lights belong? They should be in the possession of the traders, shouldn't they, if they funded them in the first place?
to whom do the lights belong? They should be in the possession of the traders, shouldn't they, if they funded them in the first place? oftbewildered2
  • Score: 16

3:21pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Chrome1 says...

Hough64 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?
Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?
Would Jesus have them in his house?
[quote][p][bold]Hough64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?[/p][/quote]Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?[/p][/quote]Would Jesus have them in his house? Chrome1
  • Score: 5

4:22pm Thu 24 Oct 13

robmoss2k says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Hough64 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?
Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?
Would Jesus have them in his house?
No, he's dead.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hough64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?[/p][/quote]Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?[/p][/quote]Would Jesus have them in his house?[/p][/quote]No, he's dead. robmoss2k
  • Score: 6

4:26pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Chrome1 says...

Nice one RobMoss I didn't see that coming. One nil to you.
Nice one RobMoss I didn't see that coming. One nil to you. Chrome1
  • Score: 1

4:52pm Thu 24 Oct 13

robmoss2k says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Nice one RobMoss I didn't see that coming. One nil to you.
Woohoo! :-D
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Nice one RobMoss I didn't see that coming. One nil to you.[/p][/quote]Woohoo! :-D robmoss2k
  • Score: 2

8:42pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Babbar Divino says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
to whom do the lights belong? They should be in the possession of the traders, shouldn't they, if they funded them in the first place?
Correct. Typical Council I can see why it would cost them £7,000. Even if they started now and with all the Risk Assessments and Elf and Safety stuff would not finish until the first week of December.

Give the lights back to the people that bought them and let them fund putting them up as they've offered to do. Everybodys happy.
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: to whom do the lights belong? They should be in the possession of the traders, shouldn't they, if they funded them in the first place?[/p][/quote]Correct. Typical Council I can see why it would cost them £7,000. Even if they started now and with all the Risk Assessments and Elf and Safety stuff would not finish until the first week of December. Give the lights back to the people that bought them and let them fund putting them up as they've offered to do. Everybodys happy. Babbar Divino
  • Score: 6

8:42pm Thu 24 Oct 13

Babbar Divino says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
to whom do the lights belong? They should be in the possession of the traders, shouldn't they, if they funded them in the first place?
Correct. Typical Council I can see why it would cost them £7,000. Even if they started now and with all the Risk Assessments and Elf and Safety stuff would not finish until the first week of December.

Give the lights back to the people that bought them and let them fund putting them up as they've offered to do. Everybodys happy.
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: to whom do the lights belong? They should be in the possession of the traders, shouldn't they, if they funded them in the first place?[/p][/quote]Correct. Typical Council I can see why it would cost them £7,000. Even if they started now and with all the Risk Assessments and Elf and Safety stuff would not finish until the first week of December. Give the lights back to the people that bought them and let them fund putting them up as they've offered to do. Everybodys happy. Babbar Divino
  • Score: 0

10:16am Fri 25 Oct 13

robmoss2k says...

They won't give the lights back. If someone was in any way injured whilst the lights were going up, by the lights if one or more fell off, or whatever, there's a non-zero possibility (note: I said non-zero, not big) that the council could be legally liable for compensation because the requisite health and safety guidelines were not followed to their own standards somewhere that they're responsible for public well-being. So unless someone wants to cough up £7,000, the lights will remain in whatever storage facility they're currently hidden away in.
They won't give the lights back. If someone was in any way injured whilst the lights were going up, by the lights if one or more fell off, or whatever, there's a non-zero possibility (note: I said non-zero, not big) that the council could be legally liable for compensation because the requisite health and safety guidelines were not followed to their own standards somewhere that they're responsible for public well-being. So unless someone wants to cough up £7,000, the lights will remain in whatever storage facility they're currently hidden away in. robmoss2k
  • Score: 0

11:21am Fri 25 Oct 13

Hough64 says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Hough64 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?
Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?
Would Jesus have them in his house?
I pity your children, if you have them.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hough64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?[/p][/quote]Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?[/p][/quote]Would Jesus have them in his house?[/p][/quote]I pity your children, if you have them. Hough64
  • Score: 0

4:16pm Fri 25 Oct 13

Laurajln says...

Hough64 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Hough64 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?
Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?
Would Jesus have them in his house?
I pity your children, if you have them.
Oh dear! Go preach the bible to people that care! Christmas is all about the tree, the lights the decoration ect and if you don't have them because Jesus wouldn't then I'm affraid it's your children I pitty if you have any
[quote][p][bold]Hough64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hough64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Not really cancelling Christmas are they? If anything the council is enhancing the celebrations by encouraging people to turn away from commercialism and greed. Wouldn't Jesus approve?[/p][/quote]Am assuming you wont be having a tree in your house or buying presents then?[/p][/quote]Would Jesus have them in his house?[/p][/quote]I pity your children, if you have them.[/p][/quote]Oh dear! Go preach the bible to people that care! Christmas is all about the tree, the lights the decoration ect and if you don't have them because Jesus wouldn't then I'm affraid it's your children I pitty if you have any Laurajln
  • Score: 0

7:47am Mon 28 Oct 13

shakencity says...

I see the Council haven't "cancelled Christmas in Bury" though. In fact they're actually paying for Key103 presenters and some actress off Corrie to come and turn the lights on.

Bang out of order, think the Council need to explain themselves really.
I see the Council haven't "cancelled Christmas in Bury" though. In fact they're actually paying for Key103 presenters and some actress off Corrie to come and turn the lights on. Bang out of order, think the Council need to explain themselves really. shakencity
  • Score: 4

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